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other big story for the style, the fight for the senate. elizabeth warren and scott brown face-off again. >> i'll tell you the right way to watch the debates. you're in "the cycle" for tuesday, october 2nd. >>> we're sizing up the candidates before tomorrow's fight night in denver. "the cycle's" ringside for all the action. the weigh-in is over, and now it's time to enter the ring. in one corner, president obama "no drama" obama and in the other governor williard mitt tens romney. both are keeps expectations low but both step into the ring with plenty of debate experience in the past five years. can either deliver a knockout punch without going below the bench? do we search body punches over job plans? will romney be over the ropes for taxes, bill obama be bum rushed for specifics. will jim lair send them to certain corners. after some debate of our own, we compiled our own list of what to watch. wasn't easy. here's a glimpse into the editorial brainstorm. >> the president has a double-edged sword being the president, because he's got a lot of command of detail, he understands
warren/brown debate. >> if you're going to comment on my record i would have you refer to -- >> can we just -- if this is going to be -- >> excuse me. i'm not a student in your classroom. please let me respond, okay. thank you. >> plus, there they go again. those inmates at the famous filipino prison hit the yard gangham style. ♪ >> and good day. i'm andrea mitchell live in washington. only one day to go before mitt romney faces off against president obama in denver and our new nbc news/"wall street journal" poll shows voters across the nation are placing more importance on these debates than the last time a sitting president ran and was challenged. joining me chris cizilla, managing editor of post politics.com and nbc political editor mark murray. mark, first to you, go through the numbers on the new nbc news/"wall street journal" poll. others have shown tightening of the race. when you asked voters whether they are looking to these debates more than last time did. >> people are paying attention. four in ten saying this is going to matter, be important to their vote, although wor
you want to fried chicken bites so golden brown. pity another poor mother her catfish, mango shake shook every wrchlt the little girl on the straw never blinked channelling opiuman cesters through the ecstasy of fruit sures. this is us at farmer's market. brother too complicate who had offers an arm for her and me. a chain of chins along his shoulders. where have you been and why has it taken you so long to come back? >> the piece dedicated to my foster father and cousin on my adopted side. 1, daddy. old crow, jack dan jells understood my father mouthfuls at a time. jim beam and old forester where uncles rolled up in the sufficiented hennesy take it's first breath and hound dog laughter and dominos falling like hail on the dining table. relatives existed through stories and memory ease in like zombies on ropes of camel smoke and demand a texas holdum. no wonder they call it spirits. spirits vad my father with cower vas yea. spirits made him burn rubber screaming in the driveway. the marianet and tongue were skillets at mid night. i wouldn't see his ass again until the next afterno
the clip of scott brown and elizabeth warren, i don't think that's what's going to happen tomorrow night. >> mark, we've seen a lot of evidence so far and see more when we go through the numbers tonight in the nbc news "wall street journal" poll the final numbers when they come out how important do you think the 47% comment is? because we've seen a real shift with mitt romney trying to show his empathy. he uses the term empathy, caring, how much he cares about middle-class voters? >> we're going to see that come up as a question i'm pretty sure at the debate and you look at the polls that have come out before the nbc/"wall street journal" poll, i will not give away the stuff chuck will be reporting on tonight but in other surveys there have been damage done by the 47%. i don't think it's been fatal. a lot of the national polls have been showing a tight race with president obama around 49, 50%, mitt romney in the mid 40s or so, so mitt romney is within striking distance right now but there's no doubt that 47% comment did hurt him. >> chris cizilla, a decision today in pennsylvania, a lega
trotting, what can i say? hi, willie. >> what was your initial reaction to the elizabeth warren/scott brown debate. >> scott brown fell into the trap that sometimes male politicians fall into when they debate women. he looked overbearing and angry. and you particularly can't do that when you're debating a woman candidate. i thought he was in a lot of trouble as a result of this. he's behind anyway, but now he looks mad, angry, and i think that's a -- >> okay. well, that race is fascinating. the debate was last night and we have fascinating clips of that. and also the look at preparations of the presidential debates a day away. but first, we'll start with afghanistan. nato's secretary general says there's a possibility that western forces could be withdrawn from afghanistan more quickly than previously planned. he suggested the deadly spike of insider attacks has hit the morale of former troops serving in the war zone. and today's front page of the "new york times" claims the u.s. is abandoning its hopes for a peace deal with the taliban. the "times" reports american officials are essentiall
together? new signs of chris brown and rihanna dating again, despite their violent history, and it has some people wondering what she's thinking. today's saturday, october 6th, 2012. >> from nbc news, this is "today" with lester holt and jenna wolf, live from studio 1a in rockefeller plaza. >>> good morning, everyone. welcome to "today" on a saturday morning. >> it's good to have you back from afghanistan. safe and sound. >> good to be back. >> and you're back into the thick of politics here in this country as well. >> it feels like this presidential race has been going on for so long now, but one month from today, voters nationwide will head to the polls and that's it. >> they say it's been -- after a rough debate, a little good news for president obama. unemployment fell to its lowest level since he took office. >>> we're going to look at what's driving the higher prices. >> a story of a miraculous recovery. a 23-year-old woman's brush with death when her skull was separated from her spine in a car accident. she'll be here to tell us how doctors were able to help her survive. >> it's call
of depressing news, but i want to give props to governor jerry brown of the state of california. california has become the first state in the nation to ban gay cure therapy for children. i think that gay reparative therapy is hilarious. i have some friends who tried to teach lots of guys to not be straight, and it didn't work. i can assume it's only the way for our gay children. governor brown signed the bill prohibiting children from under the age of 18 from undergoing sexual orientation change efforts. this to me is like getting rid of leeches to treat cancer. the law goes into effect january 1 and prohibits state-licensed therapists from engaging in these practices with minors. if you have a child who's gay in california and you want to ungay them and change who they really are, you can't do it with medical professionals. you have to rely on religious crack pots and that's and it is great, great advance in society. michele bachmann's extraordinarily extremely hetero sexual husband marcus has run a gay reparative clinic for a while. i can only hope this senate bill is going to be a positive f
last night's debate between scott walker and elizabeth -- scott brown and elizabeth warren. it is a little early. and the winner has already pronounced to be david gregory. mitt romney's trash collector is talking. paul ryan has a hard time doing his math homework and best of all, a man with a doubly phallic name has endorsed governor romney. first, here's lisa. >> good morning everyone. it's not about whether you win or lose. it's how you play the game unless you're running for president then it is about winning but not according to mitt romney. in his version of reality where the polls are made up and the results don't matter he says the debates are about something bigger than winning. they're a chance for each candidate to present their funeral path to -- their future path to america. the president has said something very similar. his campaign said do not expect any big attacks because mr. obama just wants to continue his conversation with the american people. but romney is still prepping some zingers
that money on my friend. don't spend it against sharon brown. >> somewhere in this picture insincerity. >> go to the bottom of the ocean with the dirty secret money. >> why is it dirty secret when it goes to karl rove but it isn't when it goes to the obama pacs? what's the difference? >> about 100 fold. >> so you only call it dirty secret ifit's more money. >> in all sincerity i agree with you. i think that this race is still sufficiently close at the national level. and we'll see what happens tonight. obviously it could be a game changer in one direction or another. but i think it would be faolly for groups like that to bail. >> it's bipartisanship. >> the captain of the titanic, ride it down. >> yesterday unsolicited advice was for jenny mccarthy. >> i'm going to go to something more serious, to my fellow conservatives. please stop getting excited about secret maybe not so secret videos of president obama saying things before he was elected president of the united states. you saw this on fox news last night. a video of president obama giving a speech to a group of black ministers in which h
, the chief operating officer of raytheon's trusted computer solutions, and joe brown, president and co-founder of accelera. both of these experts talked to us about the critical issue of cybersecurity. it's a critical issue, it's a hot issue, and cybersecurity, despite this era of austerity, still provides many growth opportunities. ed hammersla talks to us about cross-domain. that's the software that operates across multiple platforms that they're implementing at raytheon, and joe brown talks to us about the culture of trust that they have there at accelera. he's worked with his colleagues, actually, for over 30 years. he met them when they were all growing up in the same neighborhood. and that culture of trust is pervasive at accelera, and it takes it to the government agencies they're working with. he also talks about mobility--mobility with different devices and the security that is imperative for the government to operate today with multiple devices in existence. so, as they say, no matter what device you're watching today's program on, bring your own device--byod. welcome to the
of illegals in the country are living in california. so was this a good call by jerry brown? let's ask john fund. obviously this is part of president obama's new law which allows those under 16 who meet a number of criteria who came here under 16, i should say, to enjoy some of the benefits of citizenship and work. so say this is the safest way to go for those people to allow them to get a driver's license. >> let's thank governor brown for one small favor. there is one worse bill he did veto which would have prohibited state authorities from cooperating with the federal authorities in deporting someone. i think president obama's original action will go through the courts and long before any states should act on it we should see if it's viewed as constitutional. martha: you are saying wait until it goes through the courts then proceed with this. >> what happens if the court say obama overstepped his authority? will we take back the driver's licenses? this is why we need voter i.d. at the polls. real voter i.d. at the polls that's just for citizens. once you have a driver's license everyone
than just her eyes. she pens the battling bare pledge on the boofk jennifer brown for a photo to add to the group's facebook page. >> this pledge that you're making for your spouse is just as important as marriage vows. >> wise said she came up with the pledge and battling bare out of desperation which she said grew as she tried to get help at ft. campbell for her husband with ptsd. >> i felt like streaking. maybe naked woman would get attention. i decided to instead do a photo campaign. it was what i call a god moment. ten minutes later it was on facebook. >> this is the picture wise took, where her husband's hat and holding his gun. but wise said her husband was not her only inspiration. >> these are my husband's dog tags. they were found in his car when they retrieved his car and brought it back to me after they found my husband's body. >> her husband, brandon mccoy, committed suicide in march. she said her husband sought help for ptsd but it wasn't enough. >> our soldiers have a lot to say. they have a lot bottled up inside of them. and no one's listening. i feel like they're afr
from the columbus dispatch has the president at nine points. senator brown at 10 points. i think here in ohio, if anything, the margin has actually widened in recent days. in the battleground states especially, the president seems to be doing very well. >> so you have no fear that the president peaked too early? >> you always have a little fear. i have great confidence in this president and the campaign. the campaign here in ohio is the strongest i've ever seen. the grassroots effort, the local efforts to get out the vote. i think we're going to do okay. you don't count your chickens before they hatch and we're not going to do that. but we're voting in ohio beginning today. and people stayed up all night, camped out all night here in ohio, waiting to be able to cast their votes this morning. that shows the enthusiasm that exists here in our great state. >> the big news, of course, this week is the presidential die ba -- debates. there are examples of mr. obama having issues with tone in past debates. let's listen to a famous moment. >> he's very likable. i agree with that. i don't thi
wondered how scott brown one in massachusetts. i lived there and i talk there. there are such things as democrats in massachusetts, but there are more enrolled independent voters. over 40% of voters. usa today said that people are fleeing from the political parties, they don't want to be tied to this political party. they don't want to give situation where you have a congress, where if you want to be on the committee, sir, i do not know you, but let me assume that you are a whiz at math and you know finance and economics and you want to be on the ways and means committee. everything fits. i would say to you if i was one of the party leaders. you know, i am willing to put you on the committee. you can make good laws, but you have to promise before we give you that committee position that you are going to stick with the party line on the these things. you haven't even heard a hearing and you haven't seen the bills, but you have to promise that you're going to stick to the party. that is the way that it works. here are some of my recommendations, proposals, in 2006, the people of washin
the border -- brown versus the board of education. and the troops to enforce the victory down in little rock. at that point, the democrats had to pretend to care about civil rights. the first sell rights legislation pushed by a democrat -- far more republicans voted for it. it was about 80% republicans. they had voted for every other civil-rights bill. they were liberal democrats. albert gore sr. all of these characters were ferocious opponents of joe mccarthy. robert byrd had 100% rating. do not believe the light they were conservative democrats. there was one of 18 liberal democratic segregationist who became a republican and that was strom thurmond. this line is pulled off by describing the entire south as if it was one state. republicans -secretly appealed the democratic segregationist and suddenly we swept the south. republicans took the south when the dixiecrats died out. republicans had been winning the outer southern states since the 1920's. warren harding did pretty well. eisenhower twice. this was before 1964. reagan lost the dixiecrat states. reagan did best with college students,
'm able to do a lot of things. >> you are campaigning for senator scott brown in massachusetts, what about him appeals to you? >> he has been an independent thinker, and i like that. he has been able to stand up to the leadership in congress, and it is not easy to do. >> you live here in a home that is a beautiful -- it is a horse farm. >> actually, it used to be hay, now it is mulch hay, and we run pigs and cattle, it is where i grew up. >> so are you a city girl or a country girl? >> no, this -- i'm a country girl, this has been my home, my parents bought this, and i farmed it ever since. >> we loved our time with her, and we'll begin two weeks of office politics. >>> and still ahead, the afghanistan war started 11 years ago, today. and now new questions on why we don't just pull out now. you're watching "weekends with alex witt." res with toothpaste. but they have to use special care in keeping the denture clean. dentures are very different to real teeth. they're about 10 times softer and may have surface pores where bacteria can multiply. polident is designed to clean dentures daily. i
the fact that brokers in virginia had elected a republican. in massachusetts, the scott brown race was effectively a referendum on obamacare. and yet this president and nancy pelosi and harry reid rammed it through. >> the question -- if you were elected, do you want these benefits that hundreds of thousands of texans now have -- to do what been taken away? >> that is not exactly right. i support as a dividend health care reform. >> the lot of the land is in the books. do you want to have it taken away? >> you cannot talk about half without the other half. the other half -- i think health care reform should follow if you principals. number one, it should expand competition in the marketplace. number two, it should empower patients and disempower government bureaucrats. let me give you three specific reforms -- one, allow people to purchase health insurance across state lines. that would create a true 50- state national marketplace for health insurance. for example, talking about children under 26 being on the apparent policy. if we get a true national marketplace for of insurance,
. president obama is clearly going to run well there. ken scott brown withstand the blue tide there? -- can scott brown withstand the blue tide there? you have a candidate in indiana who succeeded the incumbent in that the primary. you have a solid republican candidates. i was in arizona about a month ago, where democrats are competitive. it shows that these races are still fluid. you can be undecided and we can say that the race for undecided voters started yesterday. it will still be a couple of weeks before they really engaged. i do not know if people vote in races like a chess game. one from aisle a, one from aisle b. one thing we have not talked about is the fundamental dissatisfaction americans have with government. president, senate, congress, and governor, how do they make those choices? >> i have to agree with fred, for the most part. you look at indiana. if lugar had won his primary, i know indiana would not have been on anybody's map. that is not how it is here it is a very tight race. fred alluded to the fact that, given that romney should win at state, i would be shocked if dem
there. ken scott brown withstand the blue tide there? -- can scott brown withstand the blue tide there? right now, the democrats are doing well. you have a candidate in indiana who succeeded the incumbent in that the primary. he is a tea party candidate. that it -- i s a -- is a tight race. you have a solid republican candidates. i was in arizona about a month ago, where democrats are competitive. it shows that these races are still fluid. you can be undecided and we can say that the race for undecided voters started yesterday. it will still be a couple of weeks before they really engaged. i do not know if people vote in races like a chess game. i do think people pick and choose. one from aisle a, one from aisle b. one thing we have not talked about is the fundamental dissatisfaction americans have with government. president, senate, congress, and governor, how do they make those choices? >> i have to agree with fred, for the most part. you look at indiana. if lugar had won his primary, i know indiana would not have been on anybody's map. that is not how it is here it is a very tight r
marshals but attorney thurgood marshall, victory in brown versus board of education. the democratic platform did not. it was eisenhower and nixon who got throughout 1957 and 1960's civil rights act over the ferocious maneuvering of lyndon b. johnson, but at that point, with thurgood marshall's victories in the supreme court and the republicans pushing through civil rights with dwight eisenhower sending federal troops to enforce marshall's victories down in little rock, um, with bill clinton's friend, orville fava, standing in the coolhouse door, that the point, the dem -- schoolhouse door, at that point, the democrats had to pretend to compare civil rights. the first civil rights legislation ever pushed by a democrat was the 1964 act, yet and still far more republicans voted for it in the house and the senate in both houses. it was about 80% republican. 60% democrat. the republicans that opposed it, opposed it for a constitutional grounds. they oppose it for every other civil rights bill. not so democrats and they weren't conservative democrats. they were liberal democrats. j. willi
on your screen. they haven't been seen before their home burned down last week. patti ann browne live from our is that correct? newsroom with more. >> they lived with their grandmother. the remains of the grandparents were found after the braise. firefighters spent a week looking for evidence of 9-year-old chloe and 7-year-old gauge. they have not found any proof that the kids were there when the fire happened at 9:30 p.m. they were seen three hours before the fire started. did they run out of the blazing house or did they die in the house and their remains were incinerated? in case the kids are alive tennessee authorities are asking for the public's help in finding them. the kid's relatives meanwhile don't know what to think. >> it is very difficult. if we just had ashes, you know, their little bodies. but we don't have anything. >> reporter: investigators say the biological parents of the children are cooperating. the cause of the fire is still unknown. jenna? jenna: what a mystery. we'll continue to watch it, patti ann. thank you. gregg: some of those withering criticism to date of pres
as excited as this? it was the weigh in that answered charlie brown's age old question. >> oh, great pumpkin, where are you? >> there it is. the scale tips 2,009 pounds. ron wallace ended up in the arms of his fellow giant pumpkin growers at the fair in massachusetts. a one-ton pumpkin is equivalent to the four-minute mile. that from 2006 when he last broke the record. the one-ton pumpkin is named a freak 2. it came from the seed of the freak 1, which tie died on the vine last year. the freak 2 won a $5,50 prize, plus a bonus. wa wallace was growing giant pumpkins is addictive. >> put one of these in the ground and get hooked, never grow back to growing vegetables again. >> it may be biggest pumpkin, wouldn't win a beauty content instead of being around and round. look more like a globe of fat. why did he look so homely? >> it's genetics. they grow at such a quick pace, they get distorted. >> for now, it's an object of admiration. eventually, it will probably be carved. >> breeding giant pumpkins is like horse racing. >> the freak 2's seeds could sell anywhere from 200 to $3,000 per seed to
. otherwise, i'm completely in line with you. i voted for ron paul in '88. i voted for paul brown, i think -- i can't remember exactly what year it was that he ran as a libertarian. i voted for ross perot once. i'm a very open-minded person but i watch things very closely. >> host: thanks for calling, gary johnson, any reaction to that caller? >> guest: well, just that i think that by going to a national consumption tax, one federal national consumption tax. i think that really is a lot more fair. i would like to point out that it ended up being cost neutral over a fairly short amount of time. so, let's use a can of coke as an example. a can of coke sells for a dollar today. in that dollar is 23% worth of imbedded tax. that's federal tax that coca-cola pays. corporate tax, as -- with social security match, medicare, unemployment, all that goes away. no more with holding from your payroll check. social security, medicare, unemployment would come out of the proceeds of the fair tax. so you bleed all that existing tax out of the coke can that sells for a buck. coke doesn't have to sell that c
for ron paul. i voted for paul brown. i cannot remember what year he ran. i voted for ross perot once. i am very open-minded better watch things closely. >> host: thank you for calling. gary johnson and the reaction? >> guest: by going to a national consumption tax one federal national consumption tax is more fair. it is cost neutral over a short amount of time. a can of coca-cola sells $1 today within that is 23% of embedded tax federal tax that coca-cola pays common corporate tax, social security match, medicare, unemploymen t. all of that goes away. no more withholding from the paycheck. so security and medicare comes out of the proceeds. if you believe the existing tax out then they do not have to sell that at $1 anymore now they sell it at $0.80. if you think they will continue to sell it at $1, it is free market and competition. coal is competitive. it will sell about $0.80 which is cost neutral. then to have a raging debate over how you implement one federal consumption tax. was never read tax we get to less of. today we tax them come and we're getting less of that. added score it
? this is janet brown introducing the first lady. [ applause ] very nice. actually, introducing ann romney who won a coin toss to be introduced first. first lady coming over to embrace ann romney before this. so now we're looking forward to this debate coming up. chris christie said, listen, we think that tomorrow morning, thursday morning, this will be a whole different race. do you have that kind of hope for it? >> kahncan candy, when the prest is asked the hard questions and has to really tell the american people why we are where we are and what is his plan for the future, i think governor romney is a strong debater. it's important in the race, but it comes down to people will ask themselves what is the president's plan to make sure the next four years aren't like the last? we haven't heard any plan yet. >> kelly ayotte, thank you very much. we'll see you in the spin room. >> thanks. >> we want to check in quickly with jim acosta and jessica yellin. jessica, have y you have a gues you. >> i'm here with antonio villaraigosa. i want to ask you -- mayor, thank you for being with us. you are a cand
smart. ♪ >>> joining us, bob brown, fidelity investment bond group. did you see the journal piece, investors jump off the junk pile, totally overheated. is that your view? >> the junk market has had a tremendous run this year. up over north of 12%. at the end of the day, i think investors are still looking for some level of income appreciation and the junk market is doing that. high yield companies have never been in better shape from a balance sheet perspective. and cash flows that they're providing. p so we continue to see the massive capital gains that we've seen or the run up in price appreciation that we've seen this year. probably not, but i think it's still a diversification. >> what kind of current yield can you get on an average junk bond? what's average, bb or something? >> bb. you're going to -- right now investor grade index spread is at approximately 140 basis points. rallied from 241 basis points. >> so what could i get? what percent and then maybe hope for maybe a little capital appreciation, but hopefully no capital loss. what kind of yield can i get? >> high quali
. martha: in 2010 then governor arnold schwarzenegger denied parole for davis. now governor jerry brown is set to make the final decision. bill: fbi investigators, now the team finally reaching the burned out consulate in benghazi, libya after three weeks of delay. the feds revealing little information so far. k. t. fact far land has been looking into this. former administrative assistant to president ronald reagan. they arrived at sun up, left at sundown, about 13 hours on the ground. they collected evidence for about three hours' time. what more do you have on that? >> this is a month later. there are so many problems with this it's hard to know where to start. there was an intelligence failure, why did we not know that there were attacks planned on the ambassador. there had been a number, a string of attacks leading up to this attack. an intelligence failure. two, a security failure. why? in the light of all the security warnings did they not provide the security? who made that decision? and that really is the third point, who made the decision, whose policy was it to not provide ade
's victory in brown vs. board of education. the democratic platform did not. it was eisenhower and nixon who got through the 1957 and 1960 civil rights act over the ferocious maneuvering of lyndon b. johnson. but at that point, with thurgood marshall's victories in the supreme court and the republicans pushing through civil rights with dwight eisenhower sending federal troops to enforce marshall's victories down in little rock, with bill clinton's friend, orvil favis in the schoolhouse door, the democrats out of political calculation had to pretend to care about civil rights. the first civil rights legislation ever pushed by a democrat was in 1964 act yet and still far more republicans voted for it in the house and the senate. in both houses it was about 80% republican, 60% democrat. the republicans who opposed it opposed it for constitutional grounds. they had voted for every other civil rights bill. not so the democrats and they were not conservative democrats. they were liberal democrats. j. william fullbright, bill clinton's mentor, big supporter of the u.n., albert gore sr. gore's fathe
that looks brown out here is a state where they were losing jobs at the time. some of them very badly. look at ohio over here. 10.6% unemployment. gradually over the next few years we saw jobs come on and education and in health care and in business services and retail. and now look where we are today. every state that is lighter in color is where there are either no longer losing jobs or in most cases gaining jobs. ohio, 7.2% unemployment now. that is better than the national average. the bureau of labor statistics says to make that happen we had to create a lot of jobs. how many? by their count, 4.4 million so far. but here's what's not mentioned much, 4.3 million were lost during the bad days. so the net gain is only about 125,000 jobs. that falls short of the president's claim he created five million jobs. it's just a little bit too much of a stretch. we have to call that claim false. even though many democrats will say in a heartbeat, look, he inherited a bad economy from george bush. many voters agree with that, nonetheless, the numbers don't add up. what about mitt romney's claim abo
governor, jerry brown, to decide if it stands. davis was granted parole in 2010 but that decision was overturned by then governor arnold schwarzenegger. if he goes free, davis would be the second convicted manson family killer to be freed on parole. steve grogan who was also convicted in the murder of the stuntman shorty shay, was released on parole in the mid-1980s. the prosecutor who sent the manson family to prison says davis should stay behind bars. manson himself was denied parole for the 12th time. he will not be eligible for parole for 15 years. by then, he will be 92 years old. arnold schwarzenegger said it was because of the heinous crimes. this was something that gripped the country and still is a part of kind of our psyche today. the parole board, though, saying he has taken part in every single -- every single kind of betterment and wellness and self-education program they've had. never had a disciplinary problem since 1980. they're recommending i ing it's for him to be released. >> thank you. >>> u.s. special operations forces are now in libya helping gather intel on
nowadays when you have scott browne -- scott walker in wisconsin able it defeat them a couple of times in ohio they did take some hits. i'm curious to hear that. >> yeah. >> you can start. >> i don't know. on the future, i can't say. i do know, i can go back to 2010 three of the top five spending outside groups were unions. that was reported the wall street jowrnt and i think there's a whole slew of research to back it up. it maybe not on television in other ways they spend money. it's strong in terms of the future of it. i turn it over to maggie. >> like any other sort of sector, if unions don't inte elevate they'll have a problem. i think that's the case for everything, everybody. for a company they have to think about new and unique ways gifting the heart of what they care about. there's a whole history whether it's civil rights, workers rights, or women's rights where people remember why unioners created. most of the world has no rex why it happened. you had to work 18 hours and never got overtime. you got paid a number you live in a town which you work. people don't understand whe
party, by the way. >> you have jim brown talking about investors fleeing the market and the percentage of households from 2001 that have stocks or stock funs down to 46% now. i mean, is that a contrarian indicator of any kind? we make fun of these types of stories constantly. >> you see that the stock market was down? the machines are in charge. 50% of the trading and the sec is beginning to answer this question. >> sorry. i think it's funny, but yea, being look, every day you come here and there's some fiasco involving trading. >> we still haven't sorted through. we still don't know what the levels are with the ratios and kraft and the trade went off, the machine trade and people say, of course, because it's all phony and this used to be a place to raise capital. >> it still is a place to raise capital. >> no, 60% of volume have high-frequency trading. >> it is something that would be up 33% in the second. confidence has been hurt by an 11-year, no move at all in the s&p and we're up a bit this year and by so many of the trading glitches. >> no, no, was the bad -- >> no. no, that wasn
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